> What I'm saying is that words can be missinturpited, mistranslated, or twisted. A person needs to dig beneath the dogma of what ever faith they belive in to discover what the core is.
..... Is the Trinity realy in the Bible or was that the result of the interpratation of Biblical scholars and theologists?

Well, the goal of those theologians should of course be to interpret the Bible not just any old way, but *correctly*. It's an unfortunate reality that interpretation of both types ("correctly" and "however it suits me") has been done in the past, and the waters are somewhat muddied as a result, as it were. But I'm convinced that the doctrine of the Trinity arises naturally (if not explicitly) from the Biblical testimony, rather than being forced onto it. And there is this to consider, too, although it takes faith to accept: the early believers who worshipped God as Father, Son and Spirit were not merely trying to work through the doctrine intellectually. The spirit of God worked in them and guided them in the truth, just as Christ promised the Holy Spirit would do. That's not a thing that I expect everyone to believe, but it explains in part why orthodox Christians accept the Trinity even though it is not spelled out clearly in any one Scriptural text. God confirms its truth personally, through His Spirit.

I'd also like to thank you for being so forthcoming about your own beliefs, which is refreshing. There are plenty of Netizens who fancy nothing better than a debate which consists of pot-shots taken at other people, while declining to spell out what position exactly the attack is coming from. My language is too adversarial here, I think -- what I meant to say is, simply, thanks for being a straightforward kind of person.

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