> If when you say that something is "knowable" you
>mean that we are aware of its presence, then that
>is different, and my original statement does not
>apply.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I meant. Knowledge of existence is basically what I was going for. In as much as I know anything exists external to myself I know that my wife exists, that my house exists, that the sun exists. Christians often claim that they know God exists with this same certainty.

>
> > I feel this is really the "default" belief
>
> SCIENCE IS NOT ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS, NUB! L2P

AND I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT SCIENCE NUB!

WTB [Clue for Darien] PST!

And I already QED'ed you over AIM. So screw your silly QED, I already won.

-- Dave