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Re: MV Level 5 HELP needed - (Spoilers)
Posted By: Sam, on host 64.140.215.100
Date: Thursday, June 23, 2005, at 12:59:40
In Reply To: Re: MV Level 5 HELP needed - (Spoilers) posted by Deadman on Thursday, June 23, 2005, at 12:41:37:

> I'm having a little trouble again. I'm on summoning portal 12/1 and I'm showing 10 kills left. Many times I get down to needing only 4 or 5 kills but I am unable to get to a check point to keep them dead.

It looks like you used up too many check points early on, and now you've got quite the long haul ahead of you. Forget the checkpoints behind the troll -- you can't get them until all the reds are dead. I would concentrate on using the Gatekeeper to get by the King. This is a tough battle, but make sure you consider all of your options for how to go about fighting that battle. Certain items might help you fight that battle more effectively. If you succeed there, you'll find a couple of checkpoints, but that still leaves the rest of the level to get by on just those two.

The other option to consider is restarting the level and trying to use the checkpoints more sparingly. It's up to you.

> OH, someone mentioned using something other than a teleport stone to teleport out of that first area but the only other thing that I can think of that teleports is a homing stone and that would still have me inside that area.

Remember, this game has to be possible to solve no matter what. If I put in a puzzle that relied on using a particular item and you didn't happen to have that particular item, nor had any way to get one, then that would be a grievous flaw in the game design.

But that's not the case here. You can get out of that initial room without fighting the red party, and you can do so without using any items, nor casting any spells, nor having any particular monsters with you. The puzzle hinges on manipulating where the red party goes as you're moving around inside the room.

> OH if Murkon can wear the stuff of Sorcerers and Wizards and do cold, fire, and poison spells then why can't he cast heal, or map, or home, ore teleport like they can?

Hey, I can wear a clown suit, but it doesn't mean I can juggle.

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