Re: Voting
julian, on host 194.213.87.193
Tuesday, July 10, 2001, at 05:34:34
Re: Voting posted by wintermute on Tuesday, July 10, 2001, at 05:04:25:
Regarding the latest Danish EU referendum, I'm inclined to agree with you. But then, there is nowhere in the world where money doesn't to some degree equal power. There was nobody trying to stop contributions to the "No"-side.
> > I would suggest that in such a close vote, the mos sensible thing would be to maintain the status quo.
A problem arises in determining true status quo. These EU referendums have always regarded whether or not the next treaty should be signed, not whether membership of the EU should be continued or not. Both would be a departure from the present situation.
> > I still fail to see why it more unfair to ignore the 49% of people who want to join the Euro than it is to ignore the 51% who are strongly opposed to it. >
Oh, but that is exactly my point! I don't think it's "more unfair", I think it's (/exactly/) just as unfair, which is exactly the reason why I don't like to use the 'result' of such a vote.
> > My point is that a significant minority is just that - a minority - whereas the almost-majority could just as well have won, given a few circumstances possibly unrelated to the subject of the referendum. The most well-established is the effect of the weather on who stays home (I trust other Rinkies to know more specifically about this than I do). > > Of course this is true. The Danish government had no direct control of the weather, but I'm sure that they would have arranged the vote to take place at a time of year when the weather would be most likely to favour the "yes" campaign. >
That is one of the perks of being in power - i.e. having won the latest election :-)
> Britain will be having a referendum on the same subject soon. Tony Blair wants us to join the Euro. What Blair wants, he gets. Despite the fact that 90% of the population say that they are strongly against joining the Euro, I will be impressed if the vote is more than 55% against. > > I think that democracies should not try and tell their electorate what to think. That's where the reform needs to begin.
Again, I agree. I think there has been a tendency among professional politicians to view the voters as ignorant. That's the kind of arrogance which people are very sensitive to, and which moreover really annoys them. I hope we are moving towards greater respect (from both sides, that is).
> > winter"I will be voting against"mute
jul"May I ask why?"ian
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