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Re: God's Plan
Posted By: Nyperold, on host 150.176.96.2
Date: Monday, February 26, 2001, at 08:18:30
In Reply To: God's Plan posted by Sam on Sunday, February 25, 2001, at 15:43:45:

> (What some forget is that what Jesus preached in the gospels was not the doctrine for this age -- Christ hadn't died on the cross yet. He didn't preach to believe in him and what he did on the cross to be saved [as Eph. 2:8-9 and Rom. 10:9-10 teach]; rather, he instructed others to keep the Commandments to be right with God. So while the principles he taught [turn the other cheek, do unto others has you would have them do unto you, etc] are important, the specific issues of doctrine may not all apply to this post-cross time.)

However, those things about which he says heaven and earth will pass away first(Lemme check -- yep, still here)... hmmm... d'ya think he lied about those, or are they still valid? Here's a clue: If *He* didn't say he nullified it, it's not nullified.

> Now, here comes the meaty part. What about those things that AREN'T specifically stated as being the will of God concerning you? There are two key verses that go together.
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> Romans 12:1-2 says, "[1] I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy,
> acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. [2] And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is
> that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God."
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> What a great couple of verses this is. There's no question it applies directly to this question. Verse 2 is the one I'm keying in on. If you don't know what God's will is concerning you, based on something the Bible says flat out, then you can find out what God's will is by "[being] not conformed to this world: but...transformed by the renewing of your mind."
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> So how do we do that?
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> Titus 3:5 refers to the "renewing of the Holy Ghost." God, in the form of the Holy Spirit, does this renewing. Romans 8:1-16 is important reading on this subject. It compares the "carnally minded" (a mind conformed to this world) with the "spiritually minded" (a mind renewed by the Holy Spirit). The highlights are "[1] ...to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." "[6] For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace." "[14] For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." "[16] The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit...." Romans 8 affirms that the Spirit leads us.
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> So to sum up so far, we can find out God's will by renewing our minds, which is done by following the lead of the Holy Ghost, which leads all of us. Unfortunately, that's where the story ends for some.
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> The question now is, how does the Holy Spirit lead us? The short answer is, the Holy Spirit leads us by our reading of the Bible, the Word of God.
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> A good pair of verses is I Corinthians 2:13 says, "...not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual." What spiritual things are these? John 6:63, Jesus said, "It is the spirit that quickeneth [enlivens]; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."
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> So if we be conformed to this world, i.e., the things of the flesh, it profiteth nothing, and to be fleshly [carnally] minded is death. However, if we follow the lead of the Holy Spirit, we are quickened (alive). And what spiritual things should we be concerned with? Jesus' (God's) words. More verses:
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> Psalm 119:11 says, "Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee." Romans 10:17 says, "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." II Timothy 3:16-17 says, "[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: [17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."

Exactly.

> The Word of God what you need to discern spiritual things, to be instructed in what is right. The Word of God is compared time and time again to things like milk, meat, honey, and so forth -- all things we need for fleshly nourishment, except in this case, God's words being spirit and all, this is spiritual nourishment. If you go a week without food, you'll starve. Being healthy in the spirit, led by the Holy Spirit, and spiritually minded requires DAILY reading and studying of God's Word. Arguably the best verses that illustrate this are Hebrews 5:12-14: "[12] For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. [13] For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. [14] But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil." The things to key in on: (1) The Bible is compared to milk and meat. (2) Milk is the foundational stuff of God's Word [Hebrews 6:1-2]. (3) Meat is the spiritual things that build on top of that, and the key is: (4) exercising the meat, i.e., putting God's Word into practice, develops your mind so you have a greater discernment between good and evil.
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> By studying the Word of God, we increase our powers of discernment in God's will in our lives. Furthermore, above and beyond the increase in discernment, studying God's Word does something else:
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> Psalm 37:4 says, "Delight thyself also in the LORD; and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart." Question: is God going to give you desires of your heart if those desires fall outside God's will? I Timothy 3:1 says, "...If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work."
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> If we're studying God's Word and basically being right with God in our lives (nobody's perfect, but if you're basically on track), then not only will our powers of discernment be increased about what the right thing to do is, but our own *desires* will start to fall in line with God's.
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> And therefore, when concerning life decisions for which the choices are not clear by an explicit reading of the Bible, you can make these by being renewed of mind, which is done by the Holy Ghost as you study his Word. To have the discernment to follow the Holy Spirit's lead, it is important to study it daily. If you are faced with a decision, and you're not sure what to make, see if you can figure out if you have a certain peace about one choice over another (Romans 8:6).
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> But to a large extent, God is going to leave a lot of things up to a personal decision. One of the greatest testaments to the power of God's plan is that he can put 6 billion people on the planet, give them all free will, yet assure that his plan isn't going to get messed up. We too often think of God's plan as being a single, unchanging course of action that's so fragile and breakable. God works his plan through our personal choices. This can be seen in the Bible countless times. The story of Abraham, for instance, who, with his wife Sarah, disbelieved that God would give them a son, so he took sinful action to bring God's prophecy to pass. It wasn't how God would have had that prophecy come to pass, but note how he worked with those human choices to bring about what he planned to have happen anyway.
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> God gave us free will for a good reason, I believe, and I don't think it was for us to be spiritually led in every day-to-day decision, and probably not all those decisions that we think of as "life decisions" either. Sometimes he'll have a preference, sometimes not. The way to do this is to be spiritually led by the study of the Word of God.
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> I hope the above is helpful and informative. I close with a note that the research that produced the above turned out to be as much a conviction of my life and a reminder of where I should be as a Christian as it is a teaching tool for anybody else here. I do need to get back to reading the Bible on a daily basis, a habit I've been out of for some time now.
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> At any rate, comments and questions are welcome.

Nyperold

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