> Yet there was still a moment of "death," whether
> they're dead now or not. They died spiritually,
> and THEN God gave them life again.

I guess, then, we're working from different definitions of death. To me, death is final - you don't die "for a while" and then come back - once you're dead, you're dead. So if there was redemption, then they were spiritually ill, but not quite dead.

Please don't anybody pop in with a comment about Jesus coming back from the dead - I think everyone would agree that he was a special case.

dkd1